Saturday, August 14, 2021

Catholic Charities, Or "Catholic" Traitors?

  In wartime, treason is punishable by death, in most cases.

In "peacetime," treason should land a person or persons in federal prison for the rest of their natural lives.  

The current policies of the fraudulent Biden regime are outright treasonous, especially when we look at what is going on at the southern border: an invasion of illegal aliens, not only from Mexico, but also from numerous countries from around the world.  

So get the idea out of your heads that we are being invaded by Mexicans only, we are not.  In fact, many aliens are from Africa, Asia, the Middle East, as well as other third-world hell-holes, trying to escape from their miserable lands and experience freedoms that they never had... But there are others who are entering our country for much more sinister reasons... And I'm not just talking about talking jobs away from Americans, sure that's one reason, but what I'm concerned about -- and my readers should be very concerned too -- is that there are criminals and anarchists intent on doing their evil deeds once they get a foothold on our soil...

This has been proven time and time again.  As an example, during  President Trump's term in office, there were many "sting operations" that took place just below the radar screen, capturing and sending to jail or deporting brutal gang members, such as the deadly MS-13 murderous lunatics, as well as human smugglers, especially those who traffic in females that are eventually sold into sex slavery.  But you almost never heard of those successful operations directed by Mr. Trump, at least not from the mainstream Marxist lackeys doing everything they could to attack Trump and his accomplishments...

Today, the country is under siege by those faithful, not to the American people and the Constitution, but to our enemies from without, and from within!

The goal of these traitors is to transform -- reset? -- our way of life; our freedoms; our very human rights given to us by our Creator, and enshrined in the Natural Law, and morph our nation into a socialist, Marxist nation of slaves under the direct control of elitist bureaucrats, sucking the very life-blood out of our minds, hearts and souls.  Such a scenario is almost too gruesome to imagine... As in a nuclear war, those survivors will envy the dead... These traitors hate God and those who fear Him...  Simply stated, they serve Satan and his minions rather than their real Master, our Lord, Jesus...

So, what role does Catholic Charities play in all of this??

First, let me say that the handle "Catholic" is a misnomer, and should be removed from this organization, just as it should be removed from universities and colleges that label themselves as Catholic, but in reality, they are no such thing because of their direct opposition to authentic Catholic Church teaching on faith and morals... We have all heard the horror stories emanating from some of these institutions that make us cringe, especially fostering those sins that cry to Heaven for vengeance!  Let's call this for what it is: apostacy...

Second, the Catholic Charities organization are letting themselves be used -- as useful idiots -- unknowingly -- or knowingly? -- carrying out the plans of the traitors in the federal government and what they are trying to accomplish at the southern border and beyond. 

(As Judas betrayed our Lord with a kiss, so too have "Catholic" Charities betrayed all that is good for the sake of the evil one and his diabolical agenda...)

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When I lived in Southern California, back in the late 1970s and early 80s, I used to go jogging quite often only a mile or two from the border with Mexico... On more than one occasion, I came across illegal aliens -- sometimes entire families -- scurrying through the brush and entering American soil... I also witnessed "coyotes" packing their vehicles with men, women and children and driving them into the interior of San Diego county and beyond... You would not believe the number of people that were crammed into those vehicles!  

Fast forward to very recently, when I saw a video of a Catholic Charities driver cramming uncountable children into his station wagon, and attempting to drive off... He was stopped by concerned citizens, afraid that these children would eventually be used and abused as so many are... This disgusting event is still going on by the so-called "Catholic Charities" and other entities guilty of betraying our country and doing the dirty work of the filthy traitors in the White House...

Don't ever donate a single penny to "Catholic" Charities!!!  Instead, donate to those priests and pastors who are loyal to America and true JUSTICE for all, not the phony egalitarianism being pushed by the modernist commies in the church -- and in our behemoth, federal bureaucracy, headed by a mentally deficient, Communist sympathizer...

Pray for strength and honor!

Viva Cristo Rey!  Bl. Fr. Miguel Pro, Fr. Emil Kapaun and Fr. Vincent Capodanno pray for us...

St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle...

Gene DeLalla




                                                 





  






 














Friday, August 13, 2021

The Public School System: Incubator Of Evil... Get Your Kids Out Now Before It's Too Late!!!

  I am not the originator of the phrase: As the church goes, so goes society, but I use it quite often in my articles because it is a truism...

In light of that fact, it can be determined that today's progressive agenda in the public school system is due to a lack of preaching -- from the housetops, that outside the Catholic Church, there is no salvation for any human creature... Or, the lack of preaching from the pulpit that a morally depraved life can, and will, lead to perdition (hell).

Why the silence from our shepherds?

Who are these shepherds?  Are they really the successors of the Apostles of Christ??

What is their goal?

If what we hear coming from the writings and speeches of pope Bergoglio is any indication, then we know what that goal is: to transform the Church of Christ into a non-descript, relative organization that will, or, has already capitulated to the spirit of the age.  We can also say that it has, or, is fulfilling, the so-called "spirit of Vatican Two"...

We can also blame the secularists who are supposed to be our elected representatives, as well as the liberal court system that has decimated any vestige of God or religion in the public schools.  Add to this moral disaster, was the devastating, and deadly decision by the Supreme Court in 1973, Roe v Wade, that made the killing of the pre-born "legal"...

I have also written in previous articles, that if all the cardinals, bishops and priests -- and laity -- marched down Pennsylvania Avenue the day after the slaughter of our precious pre-born brothers and sisters was said to be found somewhere in the Constitution as a matter of "privacy," then that decision would have been almost immediately made null and void by massive protests and jail-time for those clergy willing to put their lives on the line for the little ones... 

Think about it: we would have another 60+ million, moral and God-fearing Americans helping our nation to prosper and grow, as well as bringing us closer to our final destiny: the Beatific Vision of Christ, our Lord in the heavenly beatitude.  By the way, that is the true responsibility of all government!

But that march never happened...

What a monumental difference the annihilation of the pre-born has made in the way we look at life...  Which includes the dramatic decrease in the sanctity of life, which has led to other forms of moral deviancy, such as rampant -- and now recognized -- homosexuality and "marriage"; the moral turpitude of so-called "sex-education" for our school children, and that includes being pushed in some "Catholic" schools as well... another endless list can be written here...

And now we have "parents" trying to change the sexual direction of their girls to boys, and boys to girls!  What an eternal price these lunatic "parents" will have to pay at their Particular Judgement; whether they believe it or not, it will happen...

I cannot believe that parents who have children in the public school system, and now even in some "Catholic" schools, keep them enrolled and see them graduate completely brainwashed about God and country...  Parents would do well to get them out of there, pronto, and home school.  The destiny of their immortal souls is at stake -- and so is yours!

We are bombarded and surrounded every day with matters that seem to be overwhelming, but never give an inch!  We have a Champion on our side: Christ, our Lord, and His Most tender Blessed Mother, Mary to intercede for us... What a winning combination!!

The days of the demon are numbered, and he knows it!

Pray for strength and honor...

Viva Cristo Rey!  Bl. Fr. Miguel Pro, Fr. Emil Kapaun and Fr. Vincent Capodanno pray for us...

St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle...

Gene DeLalla








 






























Thursday, August 12, 2021

Have We All Forgotten The Las Vegas Massacre Of 2017?

  With all the craziness and madness going on in society, especially here in the U.S., under the fraudulent "presidency" of the Biden regime, why would I bring up the horrible massacre that took place in Las Vegas back in 2017?

If we look closely, we can see that many incidences are somehow connected, and when it comes to what are labeled mass shootings, there is usually other circumstances and facts that lurk just below the surface.  When these circumstances are examined more deeply, one can come to the conclusion that something just doesn't smell right...

Take, for instance, the assassination of President Kennedy on November 22, 1963...

I was a junior in high school at the time, and when the news hit the airwaves, I was visiting a buddy at his house exploring his coin collection, comparing his, to mine.  As I was searching through his Mercury dime collection (isn't it funny how lots of folks remember exactly what they were doing when the news hit?), the phone rang... It was my friend's father calling from downtown where he worked... He told my friend, Paul, that the president had been shot... Paul then relayed that info to me... For some reason, he said that his Dad was making a bad joke about the president... I continued looking through Paul's Mercury dime collection...

After a while, I started walking back home...

Some girls, who just got off the school bus from the same high school, asked me if I had heard anything about President Kennedy being shot in Dallas (Texas).  At that instant, I realized that Paul's father was not joking, and something terrible had happened, not only to our country, but also to our faith in those elected to represent us and secure the commonweal...

As time went on, there was a commission formed to investigate the murder of our first Catholic president, and to come up with some answers, such as, did Lee Harvey Oswald act alone and kill the president from the Texas Book Depository, firing several shots from a bolt-action rifle?

Or?

At the conclusion of the Warren Commission report, the distinguished members of that commission, reported that Oswald did, in fact, fire the bullet(s) that took the life of President Kennedy, as well as wounding the Governor of Texas, John Connally.

That bullet became known as "the magic bullet"... There were several reasons for that infamous handle, and many articles and books have been written about the so-called "magic bullet," but suffice to say, there are some who believe that there was more than one bullet, and even more intriguing, is the possibility that there was more than one shooter who did that dirty deed...

Again, many articles and books have been written about that possibility too...

Fast forward to the night of October 1, 2017, and the country music concert that was held in a sprawling parking lot on the Las Vegas Strip...

Beginning around 10:05 p.m., Stephen Paddock, a 64-year-old man from Mesquite, Nevada, opened fire...  After the shooting stopped, nearly 60 people were dead, and hundreds of others were wounded...

(I would suggest, that at this point, it would be a good idea to reach into your closet and get out that tin-foil-hat; sit back with a nice glass of wine, or a Coke, and read the next few lines of this article...)

One of the most dramatic pieces of evidence that was almost completely ignored by "law enforcement," as well as "news" outlets, were some of the audio recordings -- that I heard with my own ears -- as things were happening in real time...

I will report to my readers now, that I have exceptional hearing; always have, even to this very day... I know what I heard...

On one damning recording, I heard additional quick-firing semi-automatic weapons, or a slower version of full-automatic shots being fired from different locations.  As the lunatic in the hotel stopped to reload, I distinctly heard other shots being fired in quick succession from some of those other locations!  In fact, witnesses who reported same, were silenced and, in some cases, threatened if they didn't keep their mouths shut.  

So, what is going on here??  

Was this another group of Americans being sacrificed for more sinister reasons than that which is told to a gullible, and, in some cases, brainwashed populace ?

What happened to those independent investigators and the results of their inquiries?  

Have the families of those killed and wounded given up their quest for justice and the truth of what actually happened on that terrible night?

The grisly scene in that parking lot was too much for some survivors to take and I'm sure that some folks literally lost their minds...

Look, the point that I'm trying to make here, is that there are people and agendas that are almost too evil to even write about.  Those conspirators will do anything to carry out that agenda, regardless of the cost to their fellow citizens, whether the loss of freedoms, or even the loss of life itself...

We have to look no further than what is occurring in our country at the present time with the likes of the present Marxist regime in the White House and in the majority of the Congress and Senate... But what makes matters even worse, are the Republican traitors that go along to get along with -- who, or what, exactly?   

Our Lord tells us in the Bible, that by their fruits you will know them.  In fact, He said that twice in one paragraph.  That tells me He meant business, and that we sheep had better heed what He said or else we (the Elect?) just might be devoured by that roaring lion, seeking whom he can destroy...

As I have written many times, our Lord tells us to pray for our enemies, but we are also told to keep our lamps filled with oil, so that when the Bridegroom comes, we will be ready to meet, and greet Him and rejoice!!!

Pray for strength and honor!

Viva Cristo Rey!  Bl. Fr. Miguel Pro, Fr. Emil Kapaun and Fr. Vincent Capodanno, pray for us...

St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle...

Gene DeLalla















   













 


































Wednesday, August 11, 2021

We Don't Need Another Treasonous Bishop!

 Archbishop for Military Services Supports Mandatory COVID Vaccination for Soldiers

That is the headline from an article on CNSnews.com, written by Michael W. Chapman, August 10, 2021...

The gist of the article?  Archbishop Timothy Broglio, head of the archdiocese for the Military Services supports the forced vaccination of all military troops!

Do my readers understand what is happening here?  If not, then you are part of the problem; it is you that is contributing to the fear mongering; it is you that is submitting to total slavery; it is you that will lay down your life, not to sacrifice for a friend, but so the powers that be will control every aspect of your life; it is you that will lose all of your human rights enshrined in the Natural Law, given to us by God...  

We practicing Catholics do not fear death, or at least we shouldn't... We shouldn't live in fear either because the corrupt government and medical "authorities" say that we might -- might -- catch a variant of the flu bug -- that has over a 99 percent recovery rate -- get sick and die, especially if we don't wear a face diaper, "social distance," and hide in our homes or apartments.  And the "big one"?  If we don't get an untested, unsafe, filthy vaccine developed on the backs of our dead, aborted brothers and sisters, and stick a gene-altering, chemical-laden "vaccine" into our bodies, that is supposed to protect us from catching one of many cold or flu viruses.

The reality?  Over 500,000 (could be close to 1,000,000!) people have had adverse reactions, with as many as 50,000 people dying shortly after getting jabbed...

Where have you read or seen that in the mainstream media??  You haven't, and you never will...  Where is the outrage?  Where are calls for investigations???

Also, even the godlike CDC admits that the so-called PCR test is basically worthless, yet they, and other entities continue to use or require such nonsense to see who is "positive" with covid! 

Incredible!

And now, another bishop of the Catholic Church -- or is it the parallel "Catholic" church?? -- is saying that all troops -- and all of us too?? -- citing the Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, and Pope Francis, who have "recognized the morality of the vaccine," should have no moral problem getting the jab... 

Did you get that??

Broglio is citing Bergoglio (almost rhymes!) about the "morality" of the covid "vaccine," as well as the so-called Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith!  Do these people even know what the faith is?  Do they still have even a shred of it left in their souls?  Did they ever have it in the first place???

Except for a few bishops here and there, we Catholics have been left without any shepherds to fend-off the attacks of the ravenous wolves -- dressed in sheep's clothing -- so, in effect, we must fight for ourselves and our families and can no longer count on the bishops to preach -- from the housetops -- the truths of the Catholic Faith, or stand up for the moral and Natural Law engraved in hearts of every human being that comes into the world.  

The precious faith of Christ -- without which, it is impossible to please God -- led so many Saints and Martyrs to suffer and die over the last 2,000 years, rather than renounce their faith, and worship false gods, or for "just" offering incense to a pagan Roman emperor...

One thing we have to do, whether we like it or not, is to pray for those we consider to be our enemies, and that, especially, includes those who wear the Roman collar.  If we don't, then we are rejecting the command of Christ, our Savior, to pray for our enemies.  It can't be any more plain than that...

Pray for strength, honor and for personal sanctification!

Viva Cristo Rey!  Bl. Fr. Miguel Pro, Fr. Emil Kapaun and Fr. Vincent Capodanno, pray for us...

St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle...

Gene DeLalla


  












Tuesday, August 10, 2021

Is A Second "Tactical Nuclear Weapon" Going To Be Dropped On The Traditional Latin Mass By Bergoglio??

 The United States detonated two nuclear weapons over the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki on 6 and 9 August 1945, respectively.  This mass slaughter, for all practical purposes, ended the war in the Pacific and World War II...

Would the Japanese have surrendered after the first bomb was dropped, and was the second bomb really necessary???

History tells us that it wasn't just those -- mostly -- civilians and military who died when the bombs were detonated, but also the tens of thousands who died horrible, slow deaths from the lingering effects of the radiation from those bombs.

We all pray that there will never be another use of an atomic bomb, or even a "tactical nuclear weapon" on the battlefield, for if that were to happen, humanity, as we know it, would end, and whoever survived, would certainly envy the dead...

As practicing Catholic/Christians, it is imperative that we all pray for world peace and an end to all wars.  I write this as a war veteran: any good soldier worth his salt, is always ready to fight, but prays that he never has to!

As Catholics, we also know that there is a battle going on in the Church... That battle started long before the Second Vatican Council and continues to this day.  One of the main weapons that we have on our side is prayer: to work out our own personal sanctification, and that of our family's, with fear and trembling...

On July 21, Pope Bergoglio issued the-now infamous motu proprio severely restricting the offering of the Traditional Latin Mass (TLM), as well his scheme to circumvent Canon Law and our right to worship our Lord the way that He demands we worship Him; that does not include the novus ordo concoction! 

Reactions -- and actions -- of some of the world's bishops was swift and decisive: some banning outright, the TLM, countrywide, such as Costa Rica... While other bishops, especially here in the U.S., have either banned the TLM, or are maintaining a status quo -- for now, allowing the Mass of the ages to continue while they "study" Bergoglio's motu proprio... 

It was good to see that some bishops realize, not only the value of the sublime Mass of all time, but also that those families who attend the TLM are growing, young families, not to mention the enormous increase in the collection plates to help support the priests, pastors, building maintenance, along with funneling some funds back to the diocese as well...

But now comes word, that Bergoglio might send over a second "tactical nuclear weapon" to "encourage" the more reluctant bishops to enforce his first attack on the TLM... In other words, to ensure that those bishops obey this diabolical attempt to suppress the Mass that's been around, in much of its form, since, well, the Last Supper... 

I know I have asked this question before, but it bears asking again: Why the hate of Bergoglio for the TLM and Tradition in general?  I may not have all the answers, but I do have an answer: The Mass of the ages, and Sacred Tradition are two bulwarks that stand in the way of implementing the next, final stage of the new-world-order and the aim of Bergoglio to transform the Catholic Church into something unrecognizable from the original design of her Founder, our Lord, Jesus... 

His, Bergoglio's, race to make the Church succumb to the Zeitgeist -- the spirit of the age -- and to destroy her mission of the salvation of souls, is obvious for all who have eyes to see...  

As practicing Catholics, we must pray for the conversion of Pope Bergoglio, but not for his ominous and demonic intentions..

Pray too, for our shepherds that they stand fast against this  unlawful attack and restriction of our right to attend the TLM: the Mass of the Saints and Martyrs.  Let us also pray to those  very same intercessors, who worship before the Throne of God, humbly begging their help in our fight to remain loyal to the end; finish the race, and win the crown of eternal life...

Pray for strength and honor!

Viva Cristo Rey!  Bl. Fr. Miguel Pro, Fr. Emil Kapaun and Fr. Vincent Capodanno pray for us...

St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle...

Gene DeLalla





 







  


















Monday, August 9, 2021

To My Brother Veterans, Both Living And Dead: I May Not Have Liked You, But I Loved You...

 Let us enter the "way back" machine, and see who remembers the 1956 song, Love Is Strange, by Mickey and Sylvia?  I may not like all the words to that song, but for the purpose of this short article, I will at least use the title to make a point...

Being in the military, and being a Vietnam veteran, I found it pretty damn scary at times, not knowing what was going to happen from one minute to the next, especially when on the perimeter during the dead of night, when things could go from boring -- trying to stay awake -- to deadly chaos in seconds.

The Flight that I was assigned to -- Tiger Flight -- (a "flight" in the Air Force was equivalent to a company in the Army) was the largest and most heavily armed as we were the "night shift," and the main defense against any attempt of the Viet Cong (VC) or North Vietnamese Regulars (NVA) to penetrate the perimeter of my base...

But the "night shift" was just a little different, as far as time was concerned, than a night shift back in the "world."  Not your typical midnight to seven, or eleven to seven.  No; our shift usually started just after sundown, to about five or six in the morning.  When the 1968 Tet Offensive started, so did the length of our shift increase from dusk until sunrise, or later, depending on the enemy activity near the base...

I mentioned earlier that I was pretty damn scared at times, but I had to stay put regardless of any enemy force that might "hit the wire," and gain access to American soil; our planes, personnel and the munitions storage bunkers were their main targets.  

On one particular, quiet and very sleepy night, our world was turned upside-down, when, at about 1:30 in the morning, my bunker-mate (the ammo feeder to my M-60 machine gun) and I heard the very loud sound of enemy mortar shells leaving the tube, right smack in front of us beyond the wire... The VC were using the civilian huts to conceal their position; I couldn't see the muzzle flash from the mortar, so I could not return fire from my "60"... 

I immediately contacted defense control that we were under mortar attack from a position directly in front of us... Not only did we have my favorite, heavy machine gun, but also Claymore mines as well as other "equipment" to destroy any of the bad guys... But I couldn't use any of our weapons, at least not until I could make sure of my targets.  I couldn't shoot through the huts with civilians potentially in the line of fire -- the VC knew that and used that tactic with great success...

I directed my black brother bunker-mate to watch the perimeter to our left, and I would watch to the right, fully expecting the next stage of the attack to be a ground assault!

Other units: observation towers, other machine gun bunkers and "strike teams" were put on high alert, just in case...

The ground attack never happened... the mortar attack was unsuccessful; our planes and munitions storage area did not suffer any damage, at least not with this attack, on this night...

(Just two weeks after I was transferred to another base, my former base was "hit," and hit badly, with sappers destroying several planes and storage areas... None of my brothers were KIA, but the enemy were wiped out as they tried to escape from the base...)

I will never forget that night, nor the brothers that I served with... There were more than a few other "incidents" that threatened to cut my life short, but I had many folks praying for me back in the states and I am convinced that kept me safe, both physically, morally, as well as spiritually...

Not all my brothers were "great guys," far from it... they had their faults and weaknesses, but I fought alongside them and would die for them if it ever came to that... 

I didn't like all my brother G.I.s, but I loved all those G.I.s...

We know as Catholic/Christians that there is a major difference between the two, and in a war zone, that love is paramount for unit cohesion and esprit de corps... Sure, tough guys aren't going to say it that way, they may not even think of it that way, but that's what it is!

Let me be clear: there is no glory in war, only death, mayhem, destruction and despair.  War is a grave punishment for our many sins, and the turning away from our good God.  He grants us free will to accept the free grace to overcome our sin and weaknesses, yet we resist His love to the detriment of our immortal souls; when will we ever learn??

Pray for strength and honor!

Viva Cristo Rey!  Bl. Fr. Miguel Pro, Fr. Emil Kapaun and Fr. Vincent Capodanno pray for us...

St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle...

Gene DeLalla

PS: In September of 1967, Fr. Vincent Capodanno died on the battle-field ministering to his wounded and dying troops... I arrived "in-country" just three months later... 










 






   








Saturday, August 7, 2021

Church Militant Organization Slandered! Their November Prayer Rally In Baltimore Un-Constitutionally Cancelled By Demonrats At The Behest Of The "Catholic" Bishops Cabal...

  Not satisfied with a near-destruction of the human element of the Church, these apostate, mostly homosexual "bishops" have now shown their true political colors, by depriving one of the last independent church investigative organizations left in the U.S., and, in fact, in the entire world, of their Constitutional right to free speech as protected in the First Amendment of our foundational document...

But the "bishops" didn't have the guts to man-up to Church Militant and explain their un-American actions, no, they had one of their Baltimore, Demonrat lackeys do their dirty work for them.

The slander?

The Baltimore pols reported -- in collusion with the bishops -- as the reason for the cancellation of Church Militant's prayer gathering, that there was the potential to incite violence -- AND! -- Church Militant's association with the January 6th deadly, false flag operation!!  That's what!

But, wait!   There was not, nor has there been, any association of Church Militant with anything that went on in D.C. on January 6th.  None whatsoever... And never have they incited violence, or incited others to violence.  Never!

So, what was the real reason for having C.M.'s contract cancelled?  The bishops conference does not like the fact that C.M. calls out those bishops who, well, have "come out." And, too, their corruption and cover-up of child and adolescent abuse over the years, while, at the same time, persecuting good priests who have the guts to speak the truth from the pulpit.  And that includes the condemnation and admonishing those homosexuals and pro-abortion pols that they cannot receive Holy Communion -- and that they will end up in hell -- unless and until, they repent and make a firm purpose of amendment not to commit those un-natural sins again. (Homosexuality and abortion -- willful murder of the pre-born -- two of the sins that cry to Heaven for vengeance!)

But Church Militant is not taking this slander quietly... On the contrary, they are fighting for their rights as I write this.  This is a developing story; stay tuned!

Pray for strength and honor!

Viva Cristo Rey!  Bl. Fr. Miguel Pro and Emil Kapaun, pray for us...

St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle...

Gene DeLalla







 























Wake Up Catholics, Don't Be Fooled By The "Smiles"! Trump’s Border Czar Says Leo, Cardinals Should ‘Stay Out Of Politics,’ ‘Fix The Church’

 Do you believe in coincidences?  Do you believe that a  recent Vatican  meeting  between Leo and David Axelrod, a former adviser to the dem...